By: Chris Fiorentino
If the public didn’t want to pay for the stadium, they could have let the team move. Period. They have NO ONE to blame but themselves. And to now cry that the Marlins “leveraged” them is as dumb as it...
View ArticleBy: cur68
Chris, you should read up on what happened in Miami to get that stadium built. Pretty much every single politician that approved that thing was recalled. NO taxpayer wanted it built and they took the...
View ArticleBy: stevejeltzjehricurl
Agreed that it’s not normally the public’s business. But the taxpayers gave up plenty of cash to finance the stadium. I hear your argument that this is the public’s own fault, although I’d note that...
View ArticleBy: Chris Fiorentino
cur, then tell me how that is the owner’s fault? I know the story and I know that each and every one of us would do the exact same thing that Loria did when getting that stadium built. It amazes me how...
View ArticleBy: richyballgame
Chris,hate to break the news to you bud,but that $10 million Loria makes is now 2 times more then the highest paid player on the Marlins makes That being said,you do make sense,in a way. But Loria...
View ArticleBy: richyballgame
Chris, hate to break the news to you bud,but that $10 million Loria makes is now 2 times more then the highest paid player on the Marlins makes That being said,you do make sense,in a way. But Loria...
View ArticleBy: cur68
I’m taking issue with your first line “If the public didn’t want to pay for the stadium, they could have let the team move” The public DID NOT want to pay for the stadium. They weren’t given a choice...
View ArticleBy: Chris Fiorentino
Couple things cur…first, who voted those politicians into office? The same people you are talking about, right? Second, without public funding, MLB would NOT have forced Luria to stay in the Miami...
View ArticleBy: paperlions
There is only one reason teams never make their books public when asking for public money….and it isn’t because they are losing money or only make tens of millions of dollars each year in profits….but...
View ArticleBy: cosanostra71
A team like the Panthers who own there own stadium may technically have leverage to leave at any time, but it is naive to believe they would. Why would the owner just move the team and leave his...
View ArticleBy: cur68
Sure they voted them in. They handed them a mandate to look after the public trust. They saw that wasn’t happening and tried every legal means to stop them then voted them out. I think had the public...
View ArticleBy: deadeyedesign23
Cur is right on pretty much every point, but even still that’s all irrelevant. Even if every single citizen of the county was happily willing to pay that money to keep the Marlins in town, the fact...
View ArticleBy: Chris Fiorentino
He asked for money because, well, let’s be honest…which is better, paying for something yourself or having someone else pay for it for you? Obviously, having someone else pay for it for you. But you...
View ArticleBy: Chris Fiorentino
and more power to them…God Bless them for being successful businesspeople. Without them and entrepreneurs(for the most part) like them, there would be far less jobs floating around this great nation of...
View ArticleBy: paperlions
Yep, that’s exactly how it works. Successful businessmen creating jobs for Mexicans, Indians, and Chinese….it’s the American way. FWIW, “successful” business people generally do a lot of things they...
View ArticleBy: deadeyedesign23
You’re right, it’s obviously better to get other people to pay, but it’s not like he found 600 million dollars in the back of a cab. There are consequences to taking public money and if the foundation...
View ArticleBy: gibbyfan
Chris, Your last point is a good one –and it could be expanded to say if not for the captains of industry there would be no teams to employ our highly compensated sports hereos — Having said that –I...
View ArticleBy: Old Gator
Much as I detest Scrooge McLoria and the political bagmen who did his dirty work, I have to agree with Chris on this much: the voters of Macondo have since I can remember – and I can remember back...
View ArticleBy: buddaley
Chris, let’s say I agree with your premises (I don’t, but leave that aside). And additionally, let’s ignore the process by which the Miami stadium was procured. The question you raise is why should any...
View ArticleBy: js20011041
Yes, god bless our “job creators.” God bless the people that rig the system in their favor so that they and their companies pay only a fraction of the taxes that the common man does. God bless the...
View ArticleBy: cur68
The stadium fiasco and Miami voter trends would provide a basis for an interesting case study on cultural norms, paradigm shift and capitalism. Someone could write a book on the subject, I bet. It...
View ArticleBy: seeingwhatsticks
Can we stop with this “sports owners are just successful business people” thing? They are in a business that is guaranteed to turn a profit by its very structure, either on an annual basis or at least...
View ArticleBy: jlovenotjlo
Chris I’ve got you at 465 thumbs down at the time of writing this. That has to be HBT single thread record, right? Also, everything you write is garbage.
View ArticleBy: scratchnsniffnblog
Citizens (and fans and players) in the business bed with Loria do not require bags, as they are in the bent over position.
View ArticleBy: Old Gator
A book, eh? Well, what in intriguing idea. I wish I knew somebody who wrote books n' stuff, don't <i>you</i>?
View ArticleBy: cur68
You lemme finish this thesis (chapter 4 of 5 is in the can. Chapter 5 is at 40%) then I’m down for the research ion this one. I want Brad Pitt to play me in the movie.
View ArticleBy: shynessismyelguapo
I think Chris is dangerously close to arguing that murder is okay as long as you get away with it.
View ArticleBy: davidpom50
We got some decent insight into the finances of the Dodgers under McCourt, thanks to filings in divorce & bankruptcy courts. As he claimed to be bankrupt, on the verge of failing to meet payroll,...
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